No, he's just tongue blocking the 3-draw -- If you listen closely you can hear the 4-draw playing continuously through the trill. I hope this helps. Pat Powers patpowers@xxxxxxxxxxx Sep 6, 2010 10:05:43 PM, franze52@xxxxxxx wrote: Is Kim using the Side to Side Tongue Trill in this song? Link below... >>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxLhY4kWiRQ<<<<<<<